reid thinks he'll need that vote. they'll probably move it, but we have a senate sort of chapter here before new year's eve and then it goes back. i'm not optimistic about either. i think this has gotten harder on both scores. >> we're dealing with parties operating in separate realities. vast majority of republicans that won with 55% or above largely immune to the demographic currents that have made it hard to win the white house. democrats that look at this and say, president obama gave up too much in his final offer when he went up to $400,000 on the taxes. both sides, this is -- we've had decades of polarization and you are seeing on the debt ceiling and this, it is hard to find the bridges between the parties that are representing very different americas and different coalitions. >> they're also sort of looking at the possibility of going back to the minority, and a couple years the minority tends to cure the purists after a while. >> you would hope. one thing that did not happen this week, the democrats could no